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Learn to trade Options like a “business” with Options expert, Hari Swaminathan. The OptionTiger program is designed to turn anyone into a top-notch Options trader within 12 months. Options can provide true financial independence. Take the first step. Learn this skill for life.
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Practical Options Training
A few weeks ago I came across Hari's options training at udemy and Youtube channels. I liked his straightforward and professional approach using the TOS platform. There are sufficient free videos on those channels to make a realistic assessment of the trading and teaching style which is to focus on specific techniques and nuances of options.

I was interested in purchasing one of the premium products. Before doing so I searched for customer reviews of Options Tiger and came across the reviews at investimonials. I was concerned to read some of the negative reviews, but noticed in the replies that Hari was offering one of his products for free access to assess it. I took him up on that offer and found the strangle/straddle swap ideas well explained.

My main use of options has been selling monthly put spreads using the MACD of the average of highs and lows (pullbacks in a trend). I was interested in taking the WeeklyMax course and have now purchased it. I have just taken that course which is broken down into very specific chunks of information of how best to trade directional and non-directional option strategies using weekly options and which strategy is best suited to particular timeframes using the weeklies (current week) and "shorties" (next week(s)).

I like the format and use of TOS on a live trading basis (as opposed to just taking about historical examples) which is more realistic as to how to handle different types of positions. In particular, there is a very good detailed discussion on how to best use time spreads and diagonals including adjustments.

I will be happy to purchase more courses/training from Options Tiger in the future for specific ideas and techniques to be applied in options trading rather than a pure "systems" approach. I think most options strategies are well explained on the CBOE educational part of their website. The real value is having solid methods for options trading and adjusting,which Options Tiger provides.

Ian

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Helpful service
I’m from Australia and although I’ve traded Options before, I did not realize there was so much to learn. And the fact that many platforms like ThinkORswim is not available in Australia made it more difficult. Hari was very patient in helping me understand my existing positions and suggesting methods to correct them, and even helped me setup my charts properly on the Trademonster platform. This was even before I was a customer for the swing trading product. I was glad that my first trade on Facebook had a return of 60%. Obviously a good start, and I hope it continues.

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Good trader in difficult markets
I finished the one month with the swing trading product. We had a couple of good wins and one loss. Hari is a good teacher and a good trader with lots of ideas for adjustments. Overall, I found that valuable. Markets itself are under some pressure and it did not allow us many trades. But the system approach is good, and I plan to apply it.

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Great Options products
I recently started learning about Options and have learnt to apply it to the Forex Etfs. I know I am a newbie and still learning, but I can tell this is one of the best Options education products in the market. I trade mostly short term, and the swing trading product is working very well. I learned a lot and still learning his beautiful option adjustment strategies. I don’t generally trust many people in this business, but Hari answers every question. He is dedicated and trying to help people to learn. Anyways great service and great chat room!

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Like a Bernard Madoff
I am one of the original individuals who were scammed into signing up for Hari’s Holy Grail system back in November and December 2013. Initially when looking at his advertisements I thought it was a scam and ignored his services. A fellow trader I knew who signed up for his service was surprising enthusiastic about his method of trading because the risk graph looked good. I called Hari about his system and inquired about his system. Hari assured me over the telephone that it was totally impossible for his system to lose if the price stayed out of a certain rather narrow range and if it does get into the narrow price range all it takes was a couple of timely adjustments to stay out of trouble. In separate emails he reassured me again that it was only possible that for his system to get into trouble if it goes into a very narrow price range.

When I was talking to Hari he emphasize several times about his Guarantee that when in his trading service that if we don’t make money there would be a full refund. A separate Guarantee was also given. If anything was found that was advertised as not to be true he would provide a full refund.

After I signed up I was surprised what his system really was. It basically starts out as a Back Ratio! Good grief this method has been in existence since the beginning of options trading!! Almost every Options Broker has an option for entry of Back Ratios! So you might be thinking maybe it is the method of adjustments that is the trick. There are an infinite number of was of adjustments. In the interest of not divulging Hari’s “proprietary” methods I will not speak of the adjustment methods. I would state that it is rather laughable. When it did not work in November he changed it in December 2013 and made it a lot more laughable. By 2014 the Holly Grail System was totally abandoned.

When I was with his service in November 2013 Hari’s system got into trouble without ever going into the narrow price range at all!! Hari lied to me originally! In December 2013 the trade got into trouble again and yet again the price never got into the narrow price range that was supposedly the only danger zone and supposedly can be avoided with his “secret” adjustments. Last year there was a HipChat trading room. By then end of December there was virtually no one chatting in the Chat room but Hari himself. According to Hari anyway; the December trade was a win. He paper trades. I had very serious doubts about his paper trades executions results for December. My real December trade had positions further out then his. Technically he was in greater danger then me. My December position resulted in a loss. I should state that in both the November and December trades Hari traded to the very last day of the option expiration. This is very dangerous. If an individual in November and December had just put on the Back Ratio and did nothing but closed the trade one week before option expiration they would have won both the months of November and December. However, you would have to stomach a lot of potential down draws before closing the option positions.

I signed up for his Holly System for less than 3 months. I wanted to get out in November 2013 but he said that he would extend the Guarantee and add three more months of extended service. By December 2013 I decided definitely to get out and take my Guarantee because I had 2 month of losses and absolutely no wins. I emailed Hari several times about discontinuing my membership immediately and for him to uphold his promise of a full refund. I mentioned that I was entitled to a full refund under both Guarantees. All I got from Hari was several emails about extending the Guarantee and extending the service for three more months with no additional cost.

Well to keep a long story short; I got my refund. It was not from Hari directly but from my credit card company when I complained that I was defrauded. After several months of investigation I got a permanent full refund.

I waited a long time to tell this story. I noticed several positive reviews for Option Tiger since last year. Some of the reviews look rather suspicious. There are a couple of all five stars immediately after a one star review. Any guess who the real author is? Nevertheless there will always be suckers for this type of business. They write positive reviews when they get lucky on their first couple of trades and remain ashamed to write about their lost in the long run. Everyone wants a Holy Grail. Believe me Hari is not that different then Bernard Madoff. Your Hari’s Holy Grail. That is the secret.

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Looks like a scam, walks like a scam..
What is common to the following statements:

"DOUBLE YOUR MONEY EVERY 6 MONTHS"

"LOSE 100 POUNDS IN 6 MONTHS"

Both statements are made by crooks in order to separate desperate people from their hard earned money. Desperate people will believe in what they want to believe, even knowing deep inside how absurd those promises are.

So the Holy Grail is officially dead. It was a short life. Poor suckers who paid 5k just to find out few months later that Hari doesn't consider it a good system anymore. The Trading Ideas has also been discontinued. So this is how it works now: announcing a new revolutionary "system" every 3-6 months, selling it till the first big loss occurs, then switching to a new system. Of course there is no memory of the old system losses.

All those "systems" might work for couple of months - till they don't. Then a new system is introduced and new suckers are separated from their hard earned money.

There are few things that are common to all crooks:

1. They sell a mystery secret "proprietary systems" for few thousand dollars. Like someone mentioned, those systems are usually some variation of well known strategies, there is nothing "proprietary" about them.

2. They provide unrealistic promises (make 10%/month, double your money every 6 months etc.)

3. They don't have a track record on their website.

4. They don't trade their own money.

Any of those signs should serve as a huge red flag. Hari has all of them. Don't let his slick marketing talk to fool you. There are no "secret" systems. All strategies are well known. Trading is a hard work and requires a lot of discipline. If you really want a good education, go to one of the reputable providers like Sheridan Mentoring or OptionPit. They will teach you how to trade, without "secret systems" and without hype. If you want a good and honest newsletter, check out some reviews here and on Stockgumshoe.

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What you need to become an Options expert
It’s been over a year since I first got Optiontiger products. I started with the courseware, and I now have the Condormax, Incomemax and Daytrademax systems. I have not only gained knowledge for years to come in the future, I have also traded these systems conservatively for over a 100% return on my investment using a small account. I still have a lot to learn, but have significantly improved my trading style and knowledge with Hari’s help. For me, Optiontiger has been outstanding. Hari is one of the few Options gurus who is dedicated to helping budding Options traders. I’ve not found this kind of commitment with any other provider. And when it comes to Options Hari knows his stuff more than anyone else I have ever come across.

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Awesome daytrading system with Options
I joined the Daytrademax program from Optiontiger, and this has been a fantastic experience so far. As Hari mentions, we consistently have 7 to 8 winners out of 10 trades. As long as you manage the losers properly, the returns have been great. In fact on most days I’m out and am back to my regular job by 10,30 am. The program has paid for itself as well as the annual trade service package a few times over for me. We also manage losers by adjusting them, and take it into the next day. I’ve learnt so much about trading and adjusting from Hari in just one month. Anyone who says he’s not a trader doesn’t know what they are talking about. Yesterday we turned around a trade on Chipotle and made it a fantastic winner. I’m also interested in the other Optiontiger products, and would whole-heartedly recommend them to all Options traders. Even if you already know Options, you will find Optiontiger stuff worth your money. This is top-notch value and service.

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Extraordinary Options knowledge
I’m writing this review about Optiontiger for people who are similar to me in that they are new to trading and new to Options. If you are new to the Options market like me, I can tell you that Optiontiger has some of the finest Options courses you’ll find. The package is very inexpensive at around $25 per course (when I got it). And it is the best $999 I have spent. Every concept from a total beginner to advanced strategies are covered in such minute detail, and does not leave any gaps. I’m halfway done in the advanced courses, and I’m very excited to learn more about the other Optiontiger systems. If you have any questions, you can email Hari and his reply comes back almost instantly. I find this very comforting because I can ask all my questions in case I have doubts. Hari’s knowledge of Options is truly extraordinary and his commitment to help people learn is amazing. Fantastic products, I would highly recommend it.

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Options education and strategies made easy
I’ve been an Optiontiger customer for about 3 months and have purchased the Income max systems. These systems are simple to understand and manage, and indeed I’m one of those who experienced the 30% returns on the first day of the trade. I don’t believe every trade will be as successful, but that is not the point. The system showed me a specific way to think about managing the trade, and that’s really what every trader must try to learn. More importantly, the integrity of Optiontiger and Hari is unquestionable. I have tried several service providers, and I haven’t found anyone as committed and dedicated to his customers as Hari is. Every one of his webinars is focused on his customers trying to learn something more. I subscribed to his follow-on service on Incomemax and I’m confident of taking this trading approach on both the straddles and the spreads systems. Whether you’re a newcomer to Options or an experienced Options trader, I’d highly recommend sampling any Optiontiger content. There is so much free material on the site and youtube that you could spend many months digesting these videos. Hari is very articulate and has a natural flair for teaching Options.

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