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The MAP Trading Strategy uses 3 high probability trade setups with a solid risk management structure that will put the odds in your favour, reduce risk, increase reward and make you a confident, profitable trader!
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Emini Academy Is Nothing But A Very Expensive Toy - Bevare
- You pay way too much for way too little !

- You`ll never get ahead with this software !

- You are very excited at first - you think you found something great - you`ll slowly realize it doesn`t work at all - by then it`s too late and you can just leave with your tale between your legs !

- Not enough students stand up and speak up !

- I`m amazed Emini Academy gets away with this kind of business !



- They make all their money from new students - 99% fail miserably and leave without speaking up - it takes way more to succeed than what Emini Academy can provide you with !

- Do yourself a favor - look elsewhere for better software/training/systems/trading rooms

- Other systems out there offer way better insight/software/training for half the price of Emini Academy !

- I left the Emini Academy about 3 months ago and are successful !

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Please do not waste your time or money......!!!!!!!
I joined EminAcademy late december 2013 - studied like a good student - practiced like recommended - attended all wednesday classes to improve my knowledge.

Joined the live trading room and observed at first - then started trading SIM.

After SIM I started live trading.

Now after 3 month in the room and trading it`s obvious the MAP system is not working as advertised....you will NOT get enough set ups and trade entries......you are lucky if you get a few trades a day - most of the time you are watching the market leaving you behind in the dust taking off without having valid retracements/price action.

Don`t let the nice guys at EminiAcademy fool you in to believing it`s you and up to your education you are not succeeding. I haven`t really seen too many great trades posted in the room all this time by neither students nor moderator. If you are in a trading room it would be great if at least moderator could post great trades - right - then you would be convinced it really works - he never knocks it out of the park and proves it.....NEVER......!!!!

Moderator is supposed to be in the room all day long helping and educating traders - most days he is around in the morning hour......after that he is mia and busy with other things....he might pop in for a few minutes here and there......that`s all.....!!!

I have spent all day for months in the room. I would love if it really worked - it DOES NOT.

I know EminiAcademy doesn`t have too many bad reviews - that`s why I initially joined - but please trust me when I say other systems out there works better.

I know the guys listed below from the room and honestly Robin is still SIM trading and Luiji haven`t showed too many good results in the room either and goes to school and trades from Australia a few hours here and there.

Check out other systems out there - some have a trial periods in their live room to see what`s going on - some have 30day money back.

Emini-junkie.com is one of them - that`s the room I`m joining now - I signed up for a trial period in their live trading room to make they could perform better - they have a lower initial fee and they have a monthly rate.

All that truly show me they are serious and can deliver - or no one would keep paying a monthly fee - right.

Or check out Thedaytradingacademy.com - that guy was Dunn`s friend and was part of Emini Academy - but left and started his own system - check out his site.

EminiAcademy take a big initial fee - to get your money - no monthly fee after that.

They have a big number of new students come in - not sure many stay around too long.

Hope this will get you on the right path to success - and hope you don`t waste your money on a system that doesn`t perform as promised - and trust me they are good at convincing you....!!!

Dunn is great in all his video`s etc. - but he is busy travelling the world and is hardly ever around for anything other than damage control if someone in the room gets frustrated with the low winning % or the lack of set ups/entries.

It`s obvious EminiAcademy is selling an expensive system with low entry/winning ratio.....!!!

I`m not getting anything out of this other than hopefully you looking around and trying something else before you waste your money like I did.

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Bad bad idea
This was the first service I tried off Investimonials.com, simply because I went from trading Forex then to e-mini's, now equities.

I paid several thousand dollars for Mr. Dunn's expertise, and while he was a good teacher, I never learned a bulletproof strategy that was good enough for me to recoup the investment in which I paid to learn e-mini's. I wish I could get a refund for my time more than anything, but it was my fault for not researching the e-mini's and how dangerous it truly is.

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Mediocre education for professionals, otherwise horrible
If you are already successful and trading profitably with a long and successful track record, I would say the emini academy system is worth looking at just to see if you can incorporate one or two of their elements into your already profitable system (after extensive back-testing).

However, if you are new trader approaching this program, I would say that these two individuals are immoral in the extreme and definitely worthy of the title of scam artists.

Did they start out this way? No, I don’t believe so. They took another system, modified it, and did extremely well during the massive volatility of 2008-2009 (as did virtually every strategy under the sun). Unfortunately, like so many other systems, they began to fail miserably once volatility plummeted back to normal levels. The market is always cycling and changing, and if you have yet to gain this understanding you will likely be wiped out at some point in the near future.

I think they built a company around something that worked for two years, then watched it fall apart and continue to fail up to 2014. Anyone who has spent any time in their live rooms can see obviously that the vast majority of the students are losing and never making money. The main teacher, the head scam artist, ignores all of the losing days, and then advertises like hell on the 3-4 days of the month that are actually profitable. Since he has never traded successfully himself (several insiders enlightened me of this) I quickly lost all respect for this company. At some point, the two head teachers decided to throw their morality out the window and do whatever was necessary to keep the company going. They do not trade their own system, as it is extremely unprofitable in its current state.

Again, if you are already profitable on your own (as I am), and you can afford the fees, it may give you another idea or two that you may incorporate into your trading plan after you’ve fully analyzed it and back-tested it. Other than that, I believe these two deserve to go broke, and WILL at some point after lying and scamming so many people. They spend all day advertising the system, NOT teaching you to trade. Notice that NONE of the reviews are from anyone who says they have been profitable for an extensive period of time.

Experience is what makes you long-term profitable, not a one-time system developed from past data.

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A Decision I Wish I Hadn't Made
Since most of the following review reads negatively, I think it’s worth noting at the outset that the staff at EA was responsive and helpful. Particularly, Chris Henry, the lead trainer: He’s an excellent communicator, extremely patient and very well-versed in his trade (pardon the pun). Larry, the technical support arm, is lightning fast, and Chris Dunn (the founder), though I had minimal interaction with him, seemed like a sincere, helpful, and enthusiastic person who loves to trade as much as I do. With all that said, I hope this helps…

I joined EA and purchased the MAP trading system because I believed it would mitigate much of the subjectivity I had struggled with in the markets. I also liked how EA employed the “positive-expectancy model” as part of its business rules—basically, a favorable win-percentage combined with a favorable risk-reward. Could it get any simpler than MAP: go short when the background is magenta and you get a valid technical setup with favorable risk-reward; and go long when the background is cyan and you get a valid setup with favorable risk-reward—there’s no way to mess that up, right? Not so fast…

What I discovered after becoming an EA student is that the objectivity I thought I was getting with MAP didn’t exist to the degree I had expected. Rather, what I found was that a key term in the trading room was “compelling.” In other words, trade setups not only had to meet the fairly objective technical requirements, but also had to conform to the not-so objective “favorable market environment.” That’s to say that you could have a perfectly valid trade setup in itself, but unless it’s “compelling,” it’s a setup that should be avoided. SPOILER ALERT: Being able to distinguish a compelling setup from a not-so-compelling setup is what ultimately makes the difference between success and failure with the MAP approach; regrettably, it’s the most subjective aspect of the system. After several months of pouring my heart, soul, and countless hours into studying and learning MAP, I found myself disillusioned of the notion that it offered the objectivity I desired. Before you think I’m completely naïve about some inescapable realities of the market, I do realize that any discretionary system, by definition, entails subjectivity—MAP simply had more than I bargained for. If I had to rate it, I’d say it’s 60-percent objective and 40-percent subjective, whereas I was looking for something along the lines of 80/20.

Regarding the positive-expectancy element of MAP, it’s important to mention the risk-reward factor. During my pre-purchase research, there was much ado about a 1:2 risk-reward ratio; not being new to trading, I realized that’s a good starting point for success. What I discovered after joining, however, is that the staff teaches a multiple-target approach to profit-taking (that’s not to say you have to trade that way). As with just about everything else in trading, the multiple-target methodology has its pros and cons. For example, if you trade 2 contracts, your initial risk is $125 to open a trade (i.e., 5 ticks), but if you’re stepping off between 6-8 ticks ($75-$100) on your first contract (very common, btw) and your second contract is stopped-out at break-even, you’ve effectively gotten yourself into a 1:1 (or worse) risk-reward scenario. Additionally, at the risk of sounding petty, I adopted the mistaken notion that the marketed 1:2 initial risk-reward literally meant 1:2, but many times it turned out to mean 1:1.50 or 1:1.75. Just an FYI on that so that you’re not surprised if you decide to join.

Another thing I wish I would’ve known before joining EA is that the market-recap videos are infrequently updated. As of this writing, the most current video in the member’s area was posted three weeks ago. Perhaps I’m in the minority on this, but I find recap videos (i.e., getting post-market analysis from the experts) to be insightful and helpful, especially in the beginning stages. When those videos are absent, it’s reasonable to begin questioning whether or not the system works as well as advertised, especially if you’re unable to join the trading room that day to see how things went with the more experienced members, which segues to my next point…

The live-trading room is overpriced. Once your subscription runs out, the annual cost is approximately $1,900 per year. This seems excessive since you’ve already committed a substantial sum of money ($5,000 in my case) to become a member. Furthermore, other trading educators that charge a comparable amount for their training packages often (not always) include a lifetime subscription to their live room as part of the deal. Granted, I agreed to the terms as they were, so I have myself to blame if I think it’s unfair; nevertheless, it seems reasonable, based on normative standards, that a $5,000 package would include lifetime access to such a helpful resource—ah well. An additional note on the live room, the hours and days are fairly limited. When I had room access, they typically wrapped things up in the “Advanced Room” (where the live trading was moderated) around 11:30 – 12:00 EST; i.e., they didn’t provide coverage in the afternoon. Also, they only moderated the “Advanced Room” three days a week. There was talk of opening a room during the entire market session, but I don’t know if that ever came to pass.

Also worth mentioning, if you’re the type of trader that has to be in 5-10 trades by 11:00 EST, this system is not for you. You’ll certainly be your own worst enemy as sitting on your hands is especially essential to the success of this system, particularly in non-favorable market environments (assuming you’re fortunate enough to figure out exactly what that means someday). Of course, the slower pace of the system doesn’t make it bad, but just be sure you know your trading personality so you can determine if MAP is a good fit.

The MAP software requires a fairly robust computer to run it without lag. I initially traded MAP on a 2Ghz Pentium Processor with 2GB RAM, but routinely had 2-3 ticks of negative slippage on my stops as a result of the lag (fortunately I was on sim then). The problem was remedied after purchasing a high-end Falcon Trading system, but my reason for mentioning this is that the extra cost ($2000) was unaccounted for in my purchase decision. In case you’re thinking my situation was unique, some of the other traders in the live room expressed similar concerns and mentioned that they also ended up purchasing higher-end computers to solve the problem.

On the topic of unanticipated cost, you should also know that MAP only works on the NinjaTrader (NT) platform (last I checked anyway). I believe older versions of it also ran on TradeStation, but you’ll have to consult EA for more info on that. As for NT, you can trade sim for free, assuming you get free data from your broker, but you’ll have to lease or purchase the NT platform when you decide to go live. I purchased NT for $1,000, it’s an excellent platform and worth every penny. I’m only pointing this out for those of you who may be cost-sensitive and not realize that this is a factor.

I’ve written this to help you make a more-informed decision. The type of input I’ve provided is what I wish I knew before making my decision to join EA. And in case you’re wondering how I did with MAP, I basically broke even with commissions after one year of trading, which means I lost $8,000 if you consider the MAP software/training (-$5,000), the new computer (-$2,000), and the NT Platform (-$1,000). Of course, that’s not to say that you’ll have the same results—you may do better…you may do worse. However and whatever you end up doing, I wish you the best in your trading endeavors.

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Not what it used to be, interested in selling the software
I gave Emini Academy a higher star, but the fact of the matter is all now that they are interested in, is selling the software. Before, Emini Academy had a simple software that had allowed for great targets. I have been a member for almost two years, and now two years later I still haven't been able to live trade with real cash. I studied everyday and practiced trading every day, with nothing but losses due to the new software. Emini academy now has Trade Confirmation Dots. These dots tell you when to take a trade, and they even still plot when there is no trade to take and the "rules" haven't been met. Basically it's an automated system, and everyone knows how scammy those things are.

After one of the principal traders left a Marcello, the education really has gone down hill. The system obviously doesn't work if I have been studying this long and working my butt off to become successful with them.

I gave Emini Academy a higher star, because before the software was great, but now no longer. They do have a advanced class and beginners class which is a good thing and maybe the only good thing.

If anyone does purchase this consider a BUYER BEWARE. They offer no money back anything, which sucks after I paid almost $9,000 dollars for this for the platinum membership

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Great product but not for me
The effort that the guys at E-Mini Academy put in is truly amazing. There is no better educating group out there. That being said, the program didn't fit my lifestyle and expectations of profits. I had difficulty learning what the definition of a "compelling" trade meant. I figure you have to have the "it" factor to know the difference and I didn't have that quality.

If anyone is interested, I would like to sell my MAP software for $2500. Contact me at [email protected] if you are interested.

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Great company, great people. I have lost my job and can no longer focus on my goal of learning how to trade for a living. I will sell my MAP software for $2000 if anyone is interested.

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Tried eMini's and didn't fair to well.
I paid a lot for this service last year. I don't want to state it either because I am sure others paid more or less than me and I don't want to find that out myself.

Chris was an excellent teacher, but things have changed and the original founders have left - compared to what this was before, it is not nearly as good.

I am leaving a 3 star because I feel at one point I did think the education was worth the cost, but in hindsight I feel that I had many more resources to study than paying the Emini Academy, thats not even counting the fact I realized Emini's are very dangerous especially in a market like we saw in 2011. That was almost impossible to consistently profit using any eMini strategy I discovered. Even the people teaching eMini trading were about ready to surrender, so I can't hold that against eMini academy.

Knowing what I know today I wouldn't subscribe, but then again, there could be usefulness to some people, just not at the price I paid IMO.

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Great Primer
The information and training I got at Emini Academy was very valuable. I gained a large amount of education regarding day-trading, the futures market, risk-management, and reading market structure.

To answer the biggest question: Was I profitable? In all honesty, I was a break even trader during my time at the Emini Academy. However, I don't blame this on them at all, it was my own issues that kept me from getting ahead while I was there.

It wasn't until after I left that I started becoming a serious back-tester and taking full responsibility for my own actions in the market - From there I transitioned from a break-even trader to a profitable one.

I'm not sure that anyone can actually become profitable just by sitting in a trading room - at some point, they need to take full responsibility for their own trades, and learn to change/adapt on their own to fit the market, as well as gain the large amount of experience necessary to read price action and understand how price is moving that day.

For example, the system might take all losing trades on a day where the ES is trading badly. However, once you've spent several months watching the ES trade, you will KNOW when the ES is trading bad/blowing stops and when you should just stay on the sidelines. Things like this are only learned through experience, and can't be given to you by anyone.

Chris is a great teacher and goes far out of his way to help students. Unfortunately, if you're not willing to take full responsibility for this profession at some point, you are destined to fail. No trading system is going to replace that - If you truly want to be a consistent, profitable trader, you have to make this YOUR profession. You will not succeed if you just blindly rely on someone else to tell you when to trade.

They do the best they can - But only 50% of success comes from the teacher, the other 50% comes from the student.

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It Is What You Make It
I have always swing traded stocks and dabbled in options and have friends who kept talking about the "emini's". Since I am always looking for what else may be out there I researched emini trading for quite a while and decided to sign with EA to help jump start me into the futures world.

I have tried many systems, sites, and services out there and can first off tell you they do have a sound system and good support. You can tell pretty quick in this business who is out to take your money and who actually has something worthwhile they are trying to share. The system trades various markets now besides just the ES including the oil, gold, euro, etc. market which I do like. There are many days the ES is just flat and you having additional markets available helps provide some other opportunities. I personally prefer the gold and oil over other markets (in addition to ES).

They have daily classes to trade in the live market and afternoon classes to teach the fundamentals.

I think the guys running it are very helpful and believe in their system (and actually use their system) which really makes a statement for me as well. They answer any question in the chat area no matter how basic (or how many times it has been asked).

Now, personally I did not get quite the results I was looking for but not saying this is their fault. There are guys who have done quite well but you definitely have to stick to it and perfect your skills. I come from a background of using 5 and 15 minute charts and chart setups so for me it was difficult grasping the tick chart method and their system setups. Had some good days, a bunch a flat days, and losing days.

Overall I do think they have a good system, in fact better than any other similar system out there although a bit overpriced in my opinion. But if you are going to take this seriously and really dig in then this is a good option for you. If you are looking for a "quick fix" for part time trading, then you should not expect too much, too soon.

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