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Out Of Date Technology, A broken Chat Room
IL is clearly a great trader but as a teacher and as a service there is much lacking. In my opinion IL has no desire to make the room more user friendly, up to date and train students to become great traders.

As a member of over a year and a half here are the issues I have with this chat room:

1) IL posts trades in chat by typing them so there is a delay meaning you catch all of his bad trade(losers) and miss or have to chase his most his good trades(winners). IL you could easily fix this with a simple real time voice feed from him only to complement the chat.

2) We can't see IL's positions real time, one second he'll have a starter and the next he'll be exiting the trade for a couple of grand.... We need to know when you add real time(Voice chat would fix this as well)

3) Muddy/Laura no profit.ly and I haven't met anyone that uses their strategy successfully.(both are nice people though)

4) Some members are allowed to get away with a lot of noise day in and day out that do not lead meaningful alerts(ironman, milesjstoner, michiganwar etc....) they are really annoying.

5) If you come up with your own plans and ideas based off IL's strats IL will not help you or give advice on trades. But if you only follow IL's trades you are called a sheep..... see a problem here??

A real time VOICE feed from just IL would fix most of these problems and make the room much better.

A real time IL position system where we could see IL trades as he adds and removes would help. (Not to front run IL but to see real time how he manages trades)

IL has trained no great traders. I have yet to see any verified successful IL trained great traders.

Why do I stick around? I have a year membership left to run out. I also have hope that IL will fix these issues. As it is now I feel I have wasted a year and a half of my life trying to learn and trade this system with very little success. So far I have failed as a student and IL has failed as my teacher.

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Better Resources Elsewhere - Didn't Make Any $
History:

I've been in this chat room for 6 months. My opinion is not based on a 14 day trial, or a short term stay. I hope that gives this review some credibility.

Education:

There aren't any to be honest. He asks members to write questions, usually comes out to 7-10 questions. He then pastes the answers in a coatroom. That's as much education you'll get in this room. No videos, no interactive stuff, no audio, nothing. Pretty much need to read really old seminars, and having gone trough 20-30 of them in the past 6 months, I didn't learn anything to be frank.

Making Money:

IL Makes good money, will you? Absolutely not! He uses big size, and from all the reviews, it seems to be the case. From my stay in the room, I didn't really make any real money. In fact, my biggest winner of all time, was $200, and that was on a lucky trade. The other days, I either lost, or made $10 from my own trades.

Asking For Help:

The past 6 months, every time I've PMed him, he hasn't responded. I had to beg for answers, but got only 1 word answers from him. He says to PM him when you don't make money, well I've done that, and no help has been put forth by him. He doesn't care, he makes so much money, he could care less if you cancel or if you make money.

Conclusion:

I think spend your money on better education. Everyday he posts on twitter that he has made 10K, well guess what, from that whole room, he is the only one that makes 10K. Everyone else isn't doing so great.

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Keep your friends close and your cash closer.
My gosh!!! I could not have said this better than the user below. They are on target. He is only kind to the 30 guys rest of us are just his ATM machines. He does not give a horses ass about anyone but his "friends" . Chat room is like a mill where people sign up for a free trial and leave right away!! Don't waste your money he wont help you learn a thing just push you and say look at the seminars. He should really be kinder and help if he charges so much money. I anticipated a real chat room with live trading not some trader telling me to read the seminars which btw are useless crap. When you ask something you are 100% correct he will tell you read chat when he could just kindly say it again. This room is not for all and have to have large account and also no one will help you when you are down you will just be kicked and if you cant give them good plays your just nothing. A personal note to you Nathan your subscribers are your bread for the website be kinder and teach dont just tell them go read the seminar. And do not ignore PM calls. And treat everyone as a member not only the people who benefit you. And btw he gains more off the room then they gain off him he has 200 or 300 dummies looking for his picks. Just my opinion and I did fell like they are a bunch of snobs especially the leader of the crowd. If you really want to help people help them don't be a cold hearted greedy person who only cares about taking their money. And all the twitter messages are a hype to get you to join. I am not at all impressed as a new trader $99 a month is alot of money. But I have to say if one had like $100,000 in his account and you were one of the "friends" you might do well. Take my advice Investors-underground or you will keep losing your subscribers to other services were people are treated like people not like a dollar bill.

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Owned By InvestorsLive - Read Why I Lost Money!
Super Cocky - Very Rude & No Value! Lost a lot of money!

I've been trading for 5 years, and never relied on any of these rooms. I traded quality, and it paid well. I Had a gorgeous portfolio, and kept adding too it, little by little with successful trades. I found InvestorsLive through twitter, and thought to join him. It was by far the biggest mistake in my day trading career.

Patience:

This kid has no patience what so ever. I can understand why! These rooms have such a big turn around with members, people come in by 100's and leave and never return by 100's. So he doesn't feel like wasting time teaching you. He thinks you are one person that came in, paid him the $100 and he is already got what he wants. There is a group of them in a room, that have been there from the beginning, maybe 20-30 guys, and pretty much they feed each other. They all jump on you if you talk, and the room is full of manipulation with random stocks.

He tells you to PM him if you have questions, when you do, all he does is bash you privately. He keeps telling you go read his Seminars, which I found to be anything but helpful. He has two methods that he shoves down your throat, in all the seminars or in his Scans. "Short on Parabolic, and cover into weakness for profit. His second method is to go long into dips and sell into bounces." Every single time I PMed him regarding a play, I got no answer about my particular question, but "Did you read the Seminars?", "Did you look at Member's First Page"? Now, the funny thing was, I had very well gone though a lot of those seminars all together.

Former Runner:

They got two people in the room, who simply type Stocks that are hitting 52week high, and 52week low using ST's Platform. Every a few days or so, they would write a stock in the chat, that they thought was a Former runner. InvestorsLive himself, barely went long on them, even if he did, the position sizes were small. What they don't tell you about Former Runners, is that, out of maybe 20-30 of them, one of them actually triggers and goes up. So you lose money on the other ones, and end up being a bag holder. The former Runner Scans were a joke. Not to mention, they were being thrown in the room, every a few days. Of course, not their fault, but just to give you an idea of this whole "Former Runner" situation.

His Trades?:

How he makes his money? He has a big cash account + even bigger margin account so he barely loses money. If wrong in the trade, he simply averages down with more cash, or averages up with more cash. For him to lose any money, it would have to be something out of the ordinary, since there is enough cash to get him out of any trade either at scratch, or most times with gains. So many times, he has gone long, and says he had a particular stop loss, and the stop loss comes and goes, and at the end of the day he reports a gain on the trade, when it has a bounce and it comes back. You find out, that he had given the trade more room. He simply has the cash, to sit out on trades, until they go his way. 99.99% of Retail traders don't have that advantage. Luck or skill, this guy has made some nice money, more so in the regular Pump and Dumps. That cash from those, is helping him make more money. Unless you got 500K in your account, you can't walk the walk and talk the talk with these guys. No possible.

LiveChat:

In the chat if you were to ask him a question, that he may have hinted an answer to, he goes above and beyond to write a paragraph as to tell you why you didn't go back in the chat log and find the answer, vs taking two seconds than answering you. So as far as real time help, forget it. I already covered the content in his Seminars, so that's that as well.

If you take into a position, and make money, he takes the credit and if you lose money, he says "we told you not to chase, and read the seminars". He always takes the higher hand, hence making you feel like the underdog.

He barely mentions his longs. His excuses is that, he doesn't want members to lose money, but he makes a very nice amount of money on the longs, but fails to tell anyone. He doesn't talk about OTC's and what not. That's 6-7 of his trades per day. So all day, you are waiting and waiting.

Nightly Scans:

99% Of time, they are all shorts, or some shady company that's trading at 0.000000001cent. As written in the scans, he clearly says, short into parabolic and cover into weakness. Long into red to green, and or buy into dips and sell into bounces. His scans consist of very expensive companies like LNKD that he trades with his big account and no one can touch. Also as I mentioned, he doesn't mention much of a long positions.

Overall:

People, stick to your own trading. Trade quality, and reap the benefits. I wasted $100/Month, for a while, and lost a lot of money, because of his room. Now I've gone back to my old methods, and have to make my loss back, and then start being profitable. Don't let those twitter 20K Daily Profit snapshots trick you. You really want to follow these guys, save your $100/Month, follow them on twitter. They tweet their longs, their shorts, and more. Twitter hunting will get you more money, than these rooms. Learn from my mistake. It's hard doing quality trades, it takes time to make that type of money. Don't let these guys trick you into these positions, just so you lose your money.

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You Call This "Real Time Alerts" Lol
Wanted to say that I tried this room a couple of months ago and was not very happy. It is very difficult to speak up or ask questions as you will get your head bit off if you ask a question that seems difficult to you. Investorlive is a great trader but interested in his trades not yours or mine he is in it to make money and in my honest opinion that is what this room is about. I did try asking questions and always got my head bit off. I was not a happy camper especially when they say they have real time alerts that in my honest opinion not true. IL hardly ever says when he gets into a position usually a all bunch of stocks will be called out and go figure which to buy. All the testimonials say great stuff but I felt like I have to be honest and tell the truth and not sugarcoat my experience. If IL would give real alerts I would definitely stay and recommend the room as I am a novice and need help trading. I can also say that the mentors need to be kinder and nicer to the subs in the room and more helpful. If you are paying $99 a month it better be worth it. IL has to cool down and not be so impolite to subs who ask questions. All I have to say is Caveat emptor

due your due diligence and decide yourself. I was not happy and felt like the seminars were also a waste of time. If they really did real time alerts and thought how to trade I wouldn’t be wasting my time writing this. I rated it all at 1 star as I didn’t feel it was educational or valuable for $99 a month. There are better rooms out there which really have mentors who give alerts without throwing 10 or 20 stocks at you at a time. Il is a good trader but may need to learn to deal with subs and if he did this might be a good room where you can make money. This is all in my opinion and maybe IL can do something to make his room better and more beneficial to clients.

IL,Muddy,Laura and rest of moderator as a member of your room in the past just a piece of advice be kind to your subs we keep you in business do not be supercilious and arrogant because you are making money. Answer questions and dont tell subs not to bother you. The best moderator was muddy I guess because he is older and has a head on his shoulders. I am not writing this to bash you or give a negative light againt your room but on the contrary to help you make your room better and to teach others how to be good trader like you are. There is enough money to be made out there for all of us you can give real time entries and exits and also be nice to people. A bad attitude does not help and will not bring new clients to your chat. IL take this as a piece of advice not as a bash seriously and be courteous and respectful and answer questions for subs instead of telling them not to bother or talk now. Overall I had a unpleasant experience and feel like you have to become part of the group and with so many people in there the group is only about 6-7 people so you are just a number. Due your own due diligence and again this is just my review and opinion.

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Risky garbage, surprised it has high reviews
This was one of the first "services" I ever tried in pennystock land. I tried their chatroom based on tweet's InvestorsLive would sending out bragging about their winners.

When i signed up, the real truth came in.

They throw out literally, 100 tickers per day. How the hell am I supposed to keep up with this? Its like watching a few great traders trade amongst themselves, at a pace NO ONE can keep up with. If I was a newb with a $25K account, it would be drained the first week of following them into their high risk set ups.

When a trade doesnt work out, InvestorsLive stops talking about it. You cannot ask questions, because he will silence you from talking or talk crap to you. If you want to learn how to trade, AVOID this shit unless you want to go broke.

If you think you can pay for a chatroom and follow trades and make money, you are crazy. This chatroom is basically a boiler room, luring people into buying pump and dump stocks to hold over night. This is simply not a safe service and extremely risky. Out of 100 tickers a day thrown out there 5-7 of them will work nicely, which InvestorsLive will spam all over the Twitter-Verse, just to get you to pay $100 a month for a CHAT ROOM. yes, $100 for a CHAT ROOM and nightly scans of 30+ stocks.. good luck trying to learn how to trade with this service.

Like I said, only a few out there are legit - and this one is an over priced chatroom that teaches you nothing except helping to create volume for promoted stocks.

Another thing, its VERY suspicious how InvestorsLive happens to know about promotions days before they start- very interesting, not pointing fingers, simply my opinion, but this guy must know people who are behind these newsletters. It is blatently obvious.

Avoid this service unless you want to go broke.

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Creator charged by SEC
penny stock manipulation:

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2009/lr21053.htm

Obviously all of their picks are in question. Stay away.

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Not sure these guys even trade live
After listening to these guys and watching their chat room it leaves me wondering if they really make any money trading, or if they make all their money from charging their monthly fee? like so many other out there.

You can save yourself the monthly subscription fee by just getting a stock ticker that gives you all the stocks making a new high on the day.

Basically they call out all these stocks, then wait until the next day,

then check the price on all 157 stocks they called out and out of those 1 or 2 will have made a monster run up. That's when they claim to have purchased large quantities of these stocks and claim to have sold them at the very top for huge profits.

Then they go back and dig out the call they made the day before and say see here is where I called this great play, or course you have to pick the one or 2 out of the dozens and dozens they randomly throw out.

Then they claim the reason they tell you about their magnificent trades way after the fact is to teach you.

well if that's the case just look up the stocks that are up the most from yesterday, you can do this for free.

I even had to unsubscribe from their free twitters because they are just such a waste of time. It's really not even worth anything to listen to someone brag about how great they were yesterday.

also, if they throw out a stock and it drops huge then they claim to have sold it, if it goes up then they claim that they bought it.

if you don't trade and have never seen anyone do this before then it can look fascinating, but don't try to trade it with real money.

if your a beginner then there are many other places you can learn a lot more.

and if your an experienced trader then your probably not wanting to pay $100 a month for someone to call out stocks hitting their high on the day.

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Gordon_Gekko sacramento, california

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Will BLEED Your Portfolio!!
Seriously! No kidding! Investors Underground is just tweets of stocks currently in play. InvestorsLive dont even tell whether to buy/sell it or not. No reasoning whatsoever of why getting into play. Just flipping coin. You will bleed your portfolio plus bleed $99/month.

Now if I said this.

"stock X goes higher. Stock X more"

What would you do? buy BIDU? what is the reasoning? no reasoning? just flipping coin?

Thats exactly what InvestorsUnderground is all about.

Moderator IL will just say that. i.e. "ABCW higher. ABCW guys." Now what's that mean?? a buy? chase it? dont chase it? What is the target price? Why buying when it is already running 10%+?? no reason no nothing just typing random stocks. Looks like IL is such a talented radio broadcaster!!! WOW!!!

Ask IL about finance he won't give a damn. I thought it was INVESTORSunderground. INVESTORS should at least care a bit about finance, not only pos, otc, pink, penny stock!!

I lost $30K in a month in this website. OUCH!

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Too much noise!!
Hugo L's right on point with this site. Its just alerts........ The mod's do not tell you whether they're in or not. So its just based on your decision whether to put in an entry. I personally get my alerts through trade ideas. Its faster and easier to use.

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