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Keystone Trading

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Category: Prop-Firms
Keystone Trading Group is one of the most respected proprietary trading firms in the United States. While day trading is our primary focus our traders also employ swing trading, option trading and investing strategies.As a proprietary trading firm Keystone Trading Group seeks partnerships with both new and experienced traders. Successful day trading requires mentoring, discipline, capital and a proven trading plan. Keystone Trading Group provides all of these key components for our day trading partners. We are committed to staying ahead of the learning curve.
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I couldnt agree more with Demersal. The fact is every prop firm has a main goal, make money, mostly from fees and other services they provide the traders. Most traders loose money, they are either fired or blow up - that is the simple flow of the industry. The main positive is that they are legit in that they will not vanish tomorrow, they are a very large outfit. On to the stuff that matters, they are very expensive from every aspect, the education they offer is mediocre at best. However, if you are a self sufficient trader who wants an environment that motivates and is exciting to be around then that is offered. I personally liked the environment and thrived in it, however i came to them needing a place to trade not to learn how to. When fees became more of an issue I had to find a more efficient means of conducting my personal business of trading. In summation, understand what you need then find out who is best suited to offer YOU that.

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first check how much the owners are making?
I know Keystone Trading Group pretty well. They have a very large email list, consistent "releases" of new prop trader programs, and high claims of being a prestigious, profitable firm. They use top-down, sector-based, trend-following technical analysis of tier 1 securities. Their primary setup is entry into consolidation after a trending move.

All well and good. They are profitable, and their programs are not outrageously expensive. My only question is- How much money are the owners making from education? Do your own math. Say that X amount of people per month sign up for Y prop trader program at $3,000ish. Multiply $3000 by the number of students per month. Multiply by 12. Add in all the other educational programs, as well as chatroom and product sales. Now subtract realistic administration and facilities costs. What's left? How much money are the owners making a year?

Now remember that this figure is strictly risk-free education revenue. There's your profit figure. Now subtract a maximum of $100 per student, multiplied by a 3-day max streak of stop-out days ($300), multiplied by a 3-week max streak of stop-out days ( =$900) before Keystone just fires the student and tells them to go home. So, max risk on every student is $900- the absolute maximum risk. Most students lose less, some are profitable, and a few make thousands of percent returns on their tuition payment in profit. So, let's say that average loss per student is $250.

Multiply that loss by total students per year, and subtract that figure from profit. Now add back in 20% of the full-time desk traders' income. Divide the remaining profit among 2-3 owners. I guarantee your profit figure per owner will still be more than you can imagine.

If that's how much they're making per year, risk-free... do they really care about whether their method works?

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Decent Prop firm! Definitely legit!
I interviewed with them and was out on their trading floor. I spoke with the experiences with the other traders. They seem legit and have a official office. I just think they are over priced with their training which cost anywhere fom 7k-10k with take home of 60% of the money you make trading. Also they do not let you trade any stocks. One of the top level traders must approve it before you trade a specific stock symbol. They aren't into penny stocks either which sucks and seems like they were totally against it. They are definitely legit and not like those other shady prop firms. Write me if any questions.

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